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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby Am0rIn0 on Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:28 am

olga cabaeva wrote:It's already everywhere. His face and his name.
Btw,Nachito was pro condom for adult industry ,at least in 2013
https://www.xbiz.com/news/163628/perfor ... w-in-spain
Who knows how his life can be now if a condom law was accepted?


As far I know it is already confirmed that he caught HIV outside of porn business. So to be pro condome in adult industry but fucking without condome in private with untested strangers is a serious double standard.

As hard it sounds, but I hope this case becomes a lesson and example for talents who are still careless and fuck without condome in private. The message should be clear, it kills your health, job, repuation, life, other people and harms the whole biz.

Same counts for syphilis, it doesn't start with testing or bad communication, it simply starts by fucking around in private without care and protection. Maybe by telling this over and over again to talents and to remind them we can establish a form of business ethics. If even pros like Vidal who should know it better don't care I don't want to know how some others behave. It seems to be a huge mess if we look at recent STD outbreak history, syphilis every year and and on top now even HIV.

We can ask for fresh test every 3 days it won't change anything as long the behaviour of talents in private sex or escort doesnt change.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:58 am

Am0rIn0 wrote:As far I know it is already confirmed that he caught HIV outside of porn business. So to be pro condome in adult industry but fucking without condome in private with untested strangers is a serious double standard.
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Gay escorts? Transsexuals? I heard from his co-workers from Barcelona about his preferences long time ago.
Any way,it's a good time to push a condom law because it's easier to put a condom on everyone then control performers outside of set.


New case of syphilis? Just saw it on Nikkis Models
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby toushiroroxas on Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:57 pm

I hope it doesn't affect the newly porngirls who just started porn like liya silver,jia lissa,lana roy,etc. from retiring from porn early.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby Am0rIn0 on Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:31 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:
Am0rIn0 wrote:As far I know it is already confirmed that he caught HIV outside of porn business. So to be pro condome in adult industry but fucking without condome in private with untested strangers is a serious double standard.
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Gay escorts? Transsexuals? I heard from his co-workers from Barcelona about his preferences long time ago.
Any way,it's a good time to push a condom law because it's easier to put a condom on everyone then control performers outside of set.


New case of syphilis? Just saw it on Nikkis Models


Heard about these preferences too and this is a high risk group.

But I don't see a reason for codome law just because once every 15 years there occurs a hiv case. It's job risk, construction workers daily die during their job because they fell from a building or have an accident. There is no life without risk. Moreover HIV isn't that infective if there isn't a vaginal or anal creampie involved. Infection rate is given with about 5% in average.

Also condome porn sells worse, means even less money in a already dry biz, while USA continues shooting without condome.

The agents and productions must put more social pressure on talents and remind them over and over again not to fuck without protection in private with strangers. It would make sense to let them make a written exam with certificate about STD's and the risk (using Vidal's case as lesson) so that even the last fucker gets awareness for it.

The problem is everyone gives a shit and that's why everyone does what they want. And if then sooner or later smth happens everyone gets hysterical as if they couldn't have seen this coming.

Also a production stop is just a temporary but not a sustainable solution, it's just a matter of time until the next case happens.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:46 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:But I don't see a reason for codome law just because once every 15 years there occurs a hiv case. It's job risk, construction workers daily die during their job because they fell from a building or have an accident. There is no life without risk. Moreover HIV isn't that infective if there isn't a vaginal or anal creampie involved. Infection rate is given with about 5% in average.

Also condome porn sells worse, means even less money in a already dry biz, while USA continues shooting without condome.

The agents and productions must put more social pressure on talents and remind them over and over again not to fuck without protection in private with strangers. It would make sense to let them make a written exam with certificate about STD's and the risk (using Vidal's case as lesson) so that even the last fucker gets awareness for it.

The problem is everyone gives a shit and that's why everyone does what they want. And if then sooner or later smth happens everyone gets hysterical as if they couldn't have seen this coming.

Also a production stop is just a temporary but not a sustainable solution, it's just a matter of time until the next case happens.

Don't worry ,Amorino! Condom law will never happen in Europe. World need us for their crazy medical experiements ( rats and rabbits are too cute for it). There are already a lots of people and organisations coming with PreP and similar shit for everyone. They rather will put all of us on medication then changing something into the industry. So ,we must be all on experimental medication, which can have a lots of negative effects on our health ,just because some male talents are cock lover in their private life or some lady likes bareback parties in Goa and Abu Dhabi.
Sorry,guys,but it's not for me. Any way ,I am almost done with hardcore and you have a lots fresh meat to use penicillin jab (or that ever labs sell to you) ,PreP and another shit. It starts to be even more risky if tests are faked with strong medication. Good luck to everyone!
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby Am0rIn0 on Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:57 pm

If this prep shit will be generally accepted in European business I will only shoot fresh faces (what I do 90% of the time anyways). When I already read this freaky domino SJW "we mustn't discriminate U+ models" .... Every performer who caught HIV because he fucks in shady places, with shady people without protection has to be discriminated and blamed for his stupidity so others won't follow his example. That's how social pressure works.

HIV pos actor who want to continue shooting with prep should be thrown into prison, the productions, faggots and SJW's who promote it as well.

Btw. all 1st generation contacts of Vidal were tested with PCR for HIV negative. And that alleged syphilis case wasn't confirmed, some dumb nut misunderstood the model. Looks like that model was booked for a GB in Madrid, but she canceled because of recent syphilis cases as GB is high risk, now it seems one retard understood that she canceled because she would have syphilis while she was just afraid of it...

So no reason to spread hysteria and call for apocalypse like some do via twitter and media of course loves to put oil into fire:
https://spainsnews.com/the-possible-hiv ... -province/

Some girls already have a meltdown and want to quit porn:

https://twitter.com/realkirathorn/statu ... 4659796992
https://twitter.com/LindaSweetCZ/status ... 3625887745
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:58 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:If this prep shit will be generally accepted in European business I will only shoot fresh faces (what I do 90% of the time anyways). When I already read this freaky domino SJW "we mustn't discriminate U+ models" .... Every performer who caught HIV because he fucks in shady places, with shady people without protection has to be discriminated and blamed for his stupidity so others won't follow his example. That's how social pressure works.

HIV pos actor who want to continue shooting with prep should be thrown into prison, the productions, faggots and SJW's who promote it as well.

One performer told me yesterday,Dean clinic in London started to offer PreP to everyone. Did all these people know about negative sides effects of experimental medication? In 1 or 2 years whole industry will need new liver or kidney and I don't tell about permanent problems with bones. And who will pay for transplants? Brazzers or 21sextury or any porn agency?
I think ,somebody just cashed good money for testing PreP and Truvada on us or any similar medication. Also,it's constantly pushing to work with HIV positive performers. I don't have any words. I even don't know who ,fuck,these people are?
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby Am0rIn0 on Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:15 pm

As long it stays on the island they can ruin themself as much as they want, I rarely shot UK girls and won't shoot them anymore in the future at all. I will adress this to the agencies I work with to make it a topic.

Anyway in this context there is a comment on pornwikileaks from 2013 where a actor called "Dick Nasty" claimed that Vidal would have been positive since around 2004 but used meds to surpress viral load:

"reported here earlier Dick Nasty used to tell a lot of people about Nacho Vidal being HIV positive and being able to hide it with drugs. look at Nacho’s directing credits reveals a keen interest in transsexuals starting in 2003 or so and continuing on from there. Then in late 2005 he suddenly announces his “retirement” AND SAYS HE’S GETTING MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This would be around the time he got HIV!!!!!!!!!!!

Since then he has only a few preforming credits per year and probably from scenes shot long ago and past content.He continues shooting mostly gay and tranny movies and then when he does start performing and directing straight movies again around 2010 he shoots almost exclusively in Brazil, Columbia and Spain and these are areas where its easy for an HIV positive performer (for ex John Stagliano) to perform in scenes or fake a test!!

Has Nacho Vidal been tested in america and fooled the system with anti viral drugs and performed with American girls since testing HIV positive sometime in 2005???? It looks like it!!!

How many other performers and directors in John Stagliano roster have HIV?"

http://www.pornwikileaks.com/nacho-vida ... he-system/

So far just a rumor.

There were also reports that Vidal had health issues last year:

Although Nacho Vidal has not commented on this issue, It is important to remember that the actor entered a medical center in March 2018 due to health problems, so he had to cancel his presence in the Telecinco program. The causes were a complete secret for the international media.

https://gamer4k.com/the-truth-about-the ... cho-vidal/

So far just a rumor and false as it looks he did HIV PCR/DNA test in LA in 2011.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:18 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:As long it stays on the island they can ruin themself as much as they want, I rarely shot UK girls and won't shoot them anymore in the future at all. I will adress this to the agencies I work with to make it a topic.

Anyway in this context there is a comment on pornwikileaks from 2013 where actor Dick Nasty claimed that Vidal would have been positive since around 2004 but used meds to surpress viral load:

"reported here earlier Dick Nasty used to tell a lot of people about Nacho Vidal being HIV positive and being able to hide it with drugs. look at Nacho’s directing credits reveals a keen interest in transsexuals starting in 2003 or so and continuing on from there. Then in late 2005 he suddenly announces his “retirement” AND SAYS HE’S GETTING MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This would be around the time he got HIV!!!!!!!!!!!

Since then he has only a few preforming credits per year and probably from scenes shot long ago and past content.He continues shooting mostly gay and tranny movies and then when he does start performing and directing straight movies again around 2010 he shoots almost exclusively in Brazil, Columbia and Spain and these are areas where its easy for an HIV positive performer (for ex John Stagliano) to perform in scenes or fake a test!!

Has Nacho Vidal been tested in america and fooled the system with anti viral drugs and performed with American girls since testing HIV positive sometime in 2005???? It looks like it!!!

How many other performers and directors in John Stagliano roster have HIV?"

http://www.pornwikileaks.com/nacho-vida ... he-system/

So far just a rumor, but now that he officially is HIV positive it would be coincidence.

There were also reports that Vidal had health issues last year:

Although Nacho Vidal has not commented on this issue, It is important to remember that the actor entered a medical center in March 2018 due to health problems, so he had to cancel his presence in the Telecinco program. The causes were a complete secret for the international media.

https://gamer4k.com/the-truth-about-the ... cho-vidal/

I just hope,performers will do some research about negative sides effects. Otherwise in couple years we'll see Gofundme campaigns everywhere : Please, help me ! I need urgently new liver!

I remember that happened then D.P. gave positive on syphilis in Budapest and everyone run for jab and pills. It was enough to tell to performers : You will be blacklisted from all main companies ,if you don't buy medicine from our doctors. And 90% of industry did it. Some of them even posted pictures on Twitter taking injection and holding pills in hands. All of them were scary to loose the job. It can happen the same with HIV case too. People will buy what ever you give them.

This is from Woodman 's forum
http://www.woodmanforum.com/male-perfor ... ml#p216886
Honestly,I doubt Nacho can hide or fake it so long. Now many internet trolls attack him everywhere and there are a lots of weired stories popped up.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby Am0rIn0 on Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:03 pm

Yes there are now lots of rumors and hysteria. Indeed that HIV since 2004 rumo is impossible if it's true that he did HIV PCR/DNA Test in LA together with Woody in 2011 like he wrotes in his forum.

A single penicillin shot against Syphilis isn't a big deal, it's indeed standard for cure. But we must be realistic with this HIV case, it's isolated in Barcelona, all of his contacts are negative so far and also hadn't furter contacts, as well it was communicated very fast.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:03 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:
A single penicillin shot against Syphilis isn't a big deal, it's indeed standard for cure. But we must be realistic with this HIV case, it's isolated in Barcelona, all of his contacts are negative so far and also hadn't furter contacts, as well it was communicated very fast.

This "standard " didn't help to retarded Mina. But in Europe we must take bloody penicillin instead of reporting to authority this "lady ". Mr Markus went in jail for doing the same in USA. Why must be exception for Mina? 2 years behind the bars saves all industry from unnecessary medication. Next Mina and her manager will think about it. Jail time is much better then all educative blablbabla about our nice porno family. Also all damage of immune system is not repairable. Think twice before inject all shit inside your body.
Btw,I heard N.O. was sent home by WOW because of positive test. Is it true or just rumour?


All negative contacts related to HIV still must wait for being happy and retested again.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:30 pm

Holly shit! Drugs like PreP and Truvada are really expensive: around 20 000$ by year( 1600 $ by month )
https://breakthepatent.org
And don't forget to add cost of new kidney in couple years.

This is a FSC big boss
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I guess,dude just gets % commissions from PreP sales +some money for organising PreP project itself. Check all his profiles on net. Whole porn industry is a wonderful camp to test all kind of drugs. My congratulations to Eric. Smart businessman.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby Am0rIn0 on Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:28 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:This "standard " didn't help to retarded Mina.


Here you have a misunderstanding, penicillin also helped Mina of course, as syphilis isn't resistant against it. The problem was that her Agent told no one that she got tested pos, so her 1st generation contacts couldn't be put in quarantine and among others Timea therefore did another shooting and created 2nd Generation contacts (what would have been prevented with communication of Minas case).

Anyway, Mina likely is a Patient 0, what means she had unprotected sex in private with strangers what should bring her to a blacklist.

Mr Markus went in jail for doing the same in USA. Why must be exception for Mina? 2 years behind the bars saves all industry from unnecessary medication. Next Mina and her manager will think about it.


Marcus faked his positive test to a negative one, that's serious crime. Mina didn't fake her test, there was "just" no communication as mentioned above.

But in Europe we must take bloody penicillin instead of reporting to authority this "lady ". Also all damage of immune system is not repairable. Think twice before inject all shit inside your body.


Penicillin is used since over 100 years without problem for many bacterias, Syphilis hasn't developed any resistance against it, what is quite rare. Also one must understand Syphilis diagnostics what is tricky as TPHA test will stay positive for many years after an infection, that's good so no one can hide a former syphilis infection and should be honest from scratch. While the bacterias are long gone you still have antibodies which are indicated by TPHA test, so you need other test like RPR too to confirm an acute infection. What damage of immune System?


Btw,I heard N.O. was sent home by WOW because of positive test. Is it true or just rumour?
All negative contacts related to HIV still must wait for being happy and retested again.


Not heard of this rumor.

Sure, but if the DNA test ist negative they are quite good. HIV isn't as infective as Gonorrhea or Chlamydia. Infection rate is given with about 5% during intercourse. Anal sex and creampie is highest risk, that's why Gays and Trannies are mostly affected. In overall population 80% of all HIV positive cases are therefore men, only 20% women. Those stats are from Robert-Koch-Institut.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby paroxysmia on Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:02 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:Holly shit! Drugs like PreP and Truvada are really expensive: around 20 000$ by year( 1600 $ by month )
https://breakthepatent.org
And don't forget to add cost of new kidney in couple years.

It's probably the prices in USA where the health system is completely retarded and expensive.
In France, a box of Truvada with 30 pills costs 400 to 500 €.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:11 pm

I doubt injecting all time people with penicillin can be very healthy. I'll ask about it in government clinic. I don't trust Dr Rose from Budapest experiments.
How many in reality were positive syphilis tests exept German male performer,Mina and Timea?
Was Nata Ocean send home because of being positive test too?
I don't like industry are trying to normalize STD like it's just regular headache.
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